Oct 05, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34
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#21
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Well with the current state GW is in...
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I read so many people whining about the state of guild wars, but I never see a problem with it.
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Oct 05, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36
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#22
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kahlifownia
Guild: Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS]
Profession: W/Rt
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I too completely fail to understand how WoW is better than GW, especially with people complaining about GW supposedly no longer catering to casual players. You guys do realize what kind of gameplay WoW is most heavy on, right?
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Oct 05, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37
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#23
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karyuu
I too completely fail to understand how WoW is better than GW, especially with people complaining about GW supposedly no longer catering to casual players. You guys do realize what kind of gameplay WoW is most heavy on, right?
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They think they're helping casual players, but, none of the actual casual players are here. Mainly because.. they're casual
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Oct 05, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40
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#24
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Hall Hero
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Quote:
Originally Posted by //RogueNine
Is that worse than WoW tho?
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I'd say on-par. That's saying a lot since WoW is a PvE balanced game. They're both great fun, though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by «Ripskin
I read so many people whining about the state of guild wars, but I never see a problem with it.
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Gw PvP.
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Oct 05, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41
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#25
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kahlifownia
Guild: Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS]
Profession: W/Rt
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Probably, although I consider myself casual
I do hear a lot of ruckus however, in the name of casual players, being brought forth by people who are anything but. It amuses me.
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Oct 05, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42
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#26
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I'd say on-par. That's saying a lot since WoW is a PvE balanced game. They're both great fun, though.
Gw PvP.
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I pvp more often then pve.
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Oct 05, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43
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#27
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Hall Hero
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Quote:
Originally Posted by «Ripskin
I pvp more often then pve.
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I meant this: "Well, with the current state that GW PVP is in..."
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Oct 05, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48
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#28
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Guild: Rogue Squadron
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I meant this: "Well, with the current state that GW PVP is in..."
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TBH, like ripskin I dont really see this mentallity maybe as much as others do. I pvp a decent amount and keep current with the meta in most different types. With the exception of gimmicky crap in HA and RA/TA.. most pvp seems to be pretty skill reliant. GvG for example.. the top teams ussually arent winning because of gimmick crap, its because of balance, skill and teamwork.
When I stopped playing WoW (~year ago) PvP was largely based on gear, you running around on your own etc etc. Specing out your character was even more cookie cutter than alot of GW builds if you wanted to have a good set up.
Explain to me how a system that was set up for PvP is worse than a system that is 'balanced' for PvE (and I will question how it is balanced.. I seem to remember alot of whining about certain classes in WoW)
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Oct 05, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59
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#29
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: Mo/
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I don't see any problem with the current state of pvp, but someone has to whine about something. Always.
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Oct 05, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30
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#30
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Hall Hero
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Quote:
Originally Posted by //RogueNine
When I stopped playing WoW (~year ago) PvP was largely based on gear, you running around on your own etc etc. Specing out your character was even more cookie cutter than alot of GW builds if you wanted to have a good set up.
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Arena is a considerably enjoyable arena, mostly in 3v3-5v5. 2v2 is about as annoying as RA. Also in WoW, the skill is more about in how you play, not what your build is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by //RogueNine
Explain to me how a system that was set up for PvP is worse than a system that is 'balanced' for PvE (and I will question how it is balanced.. I seem to remember alot of whining about certain classes in WoW)
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Refer to thread 2579382579.
Keep in mind that Blizz *does* balance PvP, but they have to be more careful because unlike GW, they can't be as careless to how the balances affect PvE*.
And people whine about losing to other classes because most people forget the fact that WoW PvP is balanced around teamplay.
*This isn't a bad thing. There is a much broader skill choice in GW than in WoW.
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Oct 05, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46
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#31
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Desert Nomad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by //RogueNine
When I stopped playing WoW (~year ago) PvP was largely based on gear, you running around on your own etc etc.
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If you haven't been playing WoW for the past year u probably don't know about Arena. You should give it a try before condemning WoW's PvP.
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Oct 05, 2007, 01:58 AM // 01:58
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#32
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Needs Moar[DESU]
Profession: Mo/
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Pretty sad when WoW PvP beats GW (Something that used to promote Skill > Grind).
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Oct 05, 2007, 02:08 AM // 02:08
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#33
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mai
Pretty sad when WoW PvP beats GW (Something that used to promote Skill > Grind).
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- Wait a second... wow is not grind-based and GW is grind-based? I think you mixed those up.
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Oct 05, 2007, 02:22 AM // 02:22
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#34
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clone
Voted Warhammer for first and Ragnarok for second. Grind Wars no longer gets my vote.
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Indeed. And I haven't even played games similar to those I voted for.
Go StarCraft II though. ^^
Last edited by Lafayette; Oct 05, 2007 at 02:25 AM // 02:25..
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Oct 05, 2007, 03:15 AM // 03:15
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#35
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mai
Pretty sad when WoW PvP beats GW (Something that used to promote Skill > Grind).
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I don't think it does, and yeah, you mixed that up.
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Oct 05, 2007, 04:28 AM // 04:28
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#36
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Needs Moar[DESU]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aapo
- Wait a second... wow is not grind-based and GW is grind-based? I think you mixed those up.
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I meant Guild Wars. Remember the little sales slogan they pitched back in beta/prophecies? Skill over grind? Whatever happened to that? In WoW, you knew there was grind but who would've thought that WoW PvP (something that was pretty much tacked on) would be more interesting than Guild Wars. (A game that was designed for PvP)
I'll leave it at that.
Last edited by Mai; Oct 05, 2007 at 04:33 AM // 04:33..
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Oct 05, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16
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#37
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: :P guess.
Profession: R/
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GW1 pvp feels too static.
WoW pvp is frustratingly imba. little kids named "Oo Goku Oo" or "Naruto III I" with no lives and nothing else to do can outgear/level you easy as that.
im hoping GW2 is less stuck down to the ground like gw1. i think interactiveness with the environment will make all the difference. anet was right, by now, they really do have all the ideas to make the ultimate guildwars / mmo.
Last edited by kradens; Oct 05, 2007 at 06:21 AM // 06:21..
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Oct 05, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19
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#38
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Grindin'
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: MO
Profession: E/Mo
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Watching bad guilds fight each other would make me really, really angry.
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Oct 05, 2007, 06:36 AM // 06:36
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#39
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Major-General Awesome
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ̖̊̋̌̍̎̊̋&#
Profession: W/
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Hahaha this thread got owned.
Btw, I voted Warhammer #1. It'll be a far better PvP game than GW is at the moment.
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Oct 05, 2007, 06:37 AM // 06:37
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#40
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Legendary Korean
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mai
Pretty sad when WoW PvP beats GW (Something that used to promote Skill > Grind).
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Um no.
It's pretty funny how noone is voting for GW.
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